ASB Rules

[Mew Master]

I think Bubapedia does a decent job of covering what Moves a PKMN can or can't know as occording to the Anime and Games specifically. It's what I use the most, and I pull some odd-ass combinations and moves from Gen 1 Games. Ahh the good ole days.

[Asilynne]

Move question: Im using a combee and on this site it lists Bug Bite as a move for it, however I was told that since its a platinum move it might not be allowed in ASB at this time. But without that move Combee really only has 7 moves at its disposal so I was wondering would it be ok to use this move?

[DarkestLight]

Yes until 3/22, Platinum moves of any sort are not allowed. Sorry ;_;

[Asilynne]

Ah np thats why I wanted to check with you first ^v^ In the meantime Ill consider my odd choice as a sort of handicap in my match XDDD And if this battle is still going by then Ill use it on his ass then rofl Thanks!

[Blademaster]

So that means no Platinum Tutor moves, either...?

Asi, your Combee is... well, fucked, basically. <.< Wait a week at least and give the poor bugger a fighting chance...

[Asilynne]

Yeah I caught that just now, asking Darkness about what to do -.-() rofl

[Rossymore]

'scuse me for being a perfectionist. Quite a few of the links on the first page lead back to the forum. Is that normal or do those links do that on purpose?

Maybe this thread doesn't like me?
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[DarkestLight]

No. we had a bit of a hacking crisis earlier on and so the old links don't work. I'll hafta dig them up bu no worries. I'll re piece what I can,

[Knight of Time]

Um, just wondering, but after noticing the question about Rotom's various forms in the Approval Tower, shouldn't there be a mention about using any of its forms here in the first post? Not that I have one, but just incase I do decide to get one someday, you know.

Edit: There's something else I've really been wondering about, are NYCPC moves illegal here? I seem to think they were at one point, but not mentioned in here for some reason. Other than them, what about Pokemon Box moves, are they legal or illegal?

[DarkestLight]

NYPC moves are illegal, and that's stated somewhere.
Pokemon Box moves are legal, because of the fact that they're available to everyone. Not everyone had/has access to NYPC moves.

[Knight of Time]

Being as I'm in my first tag team battle with a partner in ages, I want to ask a question.

If one person from each side is eliminated from the battle within the same round or a round of each other (e.g. me seeing one of my opponents being eliminated in one round, but after that, seeing myself getting eliminated in the same round, or the round immediately before or after the one where one of my opponents was eliminated), making it a 1 on 1, regardless of which one of the two remaining battlers is the winner, do the two people who were the first to be eliminated on their respective teams still get points?

For example, MLG and I are battling Mew Master and Asilynne, if MM is eliminated in the next round, but I get eliminated in the round following, will Mew Master and I still be able to receive points?

[DarkestLight]

Yeah. If your match started as a tag team, you both get tag team value points.

[Knight of Time]

Ah, that's a relief to hear.

In a battle, when a Pokemon falls asleep due to its opponent using a sleep move (e.g. Hypnosis), how many actions do they generally sleep for until they wake up (e.g. if they don't get disturbed in their sleep too much)?

[DarkestLight]

Can Vary. I try to stick between 2 and 5 rounds.

[Kurosakura]

[*]NYPC moves are the only moves that are illegal to be used for any Pokemon.

As seen in my battle versus VirtualPlay here, I find that banning HGSS moves until the game comes out in NA is unfair, and it's not stated in the rules.

[VirtualPlay]

As seen in my battle versus VirtualPlay here, I find that banning HGSS moves until the game comes out in NA is unfair, and it's not stated in the rules.

While I have an opposed view and do think that HG/SS moves should be banned until NA gets the game*, I do agree that this should have been stated in the rules. As such, I have no real problem with her using the moves in the battle, since there was no specific rule banning them.

* After all, NYPC moves are banned because not everyone can get them; also, this is the same with a new generation coming out and the Pokémon being unavailable for purchase/capture/starting out until they hit NA.

[Rossymore]

I don't see why we should wait, they've been added to Bulbapedia so they are available for use.

It just seems silly to restict them.

[Kurosakura]

There are also ways to trade Pokemon between ROMs and actual DS cartridges; the ROM for HGSS has been leaked anyway, whereas only people who have visited the Pokemon Center can pick up those moves.

[DarkestLight]

Kuro/Rossy: I hear you on this, and well, here the deal. Its not your fault you didn't see that rule. Its a unwritten rule. I scoured about 6/7 topics and the point only came up once or twice (like a few posts up with Asi in March about Platinum moves before Platinum was out)

The whole generation rule is harder now to keep contained, only because of the advancement of technology and how the Pokemon dynamic works. ROMS were leaked for generations before Kuro, and that rule was still in effect-and I guess the mods (including myself) just kinda said the rule...but never wrote it down (I SWORE Chris did somewhere...). So its natural to make that mistake if you don't know the unwritten lore of ASB, so to speak lol.

Now-its true that they're now posted everywhere for all to see. Back in GSC/RSE days the moves that were posted and then converted for ASB-isms had a pretty bad conversion. That's possibly why they all held off on the introduction of a new Generation before it came out to America-to aid with the correct and concise definitions of our Movelists as well as our Pokemon hierarchy structure. (didn't want fake evolutions being gained by people..)

Maybe your right Kuro, maybe that rule does need to evolve slightly. I'm still in the camp with VP about it, but yeah, the correct information is available-since it bridges sites (I never use only one site Rossy, difference can occur and that's where problems come in) and since the DS can play other region games....unlike the GBA/GBC games of old.

Giving me something to think about when I'm full of TURKEY, KURO ;_;!!! As for your match..uhh go to the match and readz what I wrotez there.

[Knight of Time]

I've got a question, if it's okay to ask.

Are Pokemon Colosseum/XD-exclusive moves allowed here? e.g. any of the "Shadow" moves, like Shadow Rush, Shadow Blitz, or Shadow Wave, as well as regular moves certain Pokemon can only get in XD, such as Houndour/Houndoom getting Charm, or Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir/Gallade getting Sing? These XD moves are covered on serebii's site, if anyone is wondering.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Sorry, I asked something like this once before, but don't remember the exact answer. Can my Pokemon names have letters like ó, ô, ò, å, ä or ö?

Keyboards differ from one country to another, so it might be harder to do some of the letters with different keyboards. Then there's Microsoft Word and other programs where you can copy and paste them.

[Mew Master]

Sorry, I asked something like this once before, but don't remember the exact answer. Can my Pokemon names have letters like ó, ô, ò, å, ä or ö?

Keyboards differ from one country to another, so it might be harder to do some of the letters with different keyboards. Then there's Microsoft Word and other programs where you can copy and paste them.

I don't see why not... I don't think it's a rules issue, unless you name your Pokemon something offensive, then it's a TPM rule issue.

[chaos_redefined]

Be aware that some refs may just make them o, o, o, a, a or o, respectively.

[Blademaster]

Yeah, 'cuz we have normal non-third world keyboards.

[DarkestLight]

I don't see a problem with it. If you were to tell the ref how to make the appropriate symbol, then there would be no problem.

[Weasel Overlord]

Or they could just copy/pasta it when you say what your pokemon's name is? that's what I'd do.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Weasel's idea sounds good. About the offensive thingy, I guess it should include English meanings at least. I mean you have heard of homonymes, haven't you?

Not that I would give my Pokemon such a name, but for instance, if I wanted to give my Pokemon a Swedish name, meaning 'The End Of The World', it would become:

Världens Slut

Which contains 'slut', the Swedish word for 'end'.

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Yeah, but I like the slut's end.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Back on topic: ofcourse that would be no problem.

[EraGam]

Hello, I would like to ask, how exactly do you catch new pokemon? I mean, I found the incubation center and the safari zone, but is there a way to buy the exact Pokemon you want? Since, I`m not sure where this is possible. Is there a Tower for this? I`m sorry if I missed it.

[Charles Legend]

Well you used to at the Approval Tower but you can no longer buy them there thought... -_-

~Charles Legend

[Ayeun]

Which, may I point out, is probably going to be a deterrent for new players in the short term. You now need to farm points and then take weeks to go catch a pokemon in the Safari zone, when you used to be able to just catch one in the towers real quick.

Or I guess you can gamble for eggs...

[DarkestLight]

o.O Only takes weeks if you are looking for some super rare beast. Pretty sure if you just want a regular joe, it would take you all of at most a week, even with SZ refs being slightly lax.

Eragam, yes. The Approval Tower used to be the place to buy Pokemon, but we recently ended that. The best bet for an exact Pokemon would be the Safari Zone. As long as you have a reasonable idea of where they might be, you could find the Pokemon you were looking for in as little as 4 posts.

Side note. Ay-no they wouldn't have to hoard points. Newbies get 2 points to start-which they can use to go into the Zone and grab up a 5th Pokemon if they wish. Then they'd have their new Pokemon and can get into battles and gain points and experience just like everyone else.

Or...they could also take up SZ quests as a ref, make a quick cash of points and then be able to fuel a larger adventure.

[Perfect Chaos]

Newbies get 2 points to start off with?!

*runs off to post in Financial tower*

[BTPoke]

I have a question about custom sprites. Can we just change the sprite of a pokemon to a custom version of it whenever we want? If not, then how does someone's pokemon get a custom sprite?

[DarkestLight]

BT: Yes. Custom sprites are welcome. You can go to uhh...Fanart. Yeah Fanart. There's a topic for Custom sprites there. One of our talented spriters may be able to help you out.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Hm, I think this idea has been around for some time, and I'd like to ask if it's OK to lend my Pokemon to a friend in a battle. I think we have had battles where the ref has lended Pokemon to the battlers, but in this case I'd like to lend one of my Pokemon to my opponent or my teammate.

Also, would that affect the points acquired in the end? I think not.

[DarkestLight]

Yeah it would, Mikachu.

Check it. If you lent Munchlax to Darth, then Munchlax would earn those points/ exp level. Only the owner of said Pokemon can use said points earned by the Pokemon, so Darth would have gained nothing.

[EraGam]

So is a mix battle possible?

[DarkestLight]

Yes it is :O. With that scenario all 6 pokemon are being used, and they all gain experience and the point distribution is still the same for winning and losing. That differs from the previous case since one of them was not participating in the battle.

[BTPoke]

I don't remember where I heard about this, but I can't find it again and would like some confirmation. Does it not require a battle slot for a gym battle?