[YGO - OCG/TCG] Official Ban And Restriction List Thread

[Ash0011]

I'm still putting my deck together I have some toon cards a relinquished a black pearl necklace and a sheild wing/power frame combo, any pointers on what Synchros to use?

[Blademaster]

5-star: Ally of Justice Castrator
6-star: Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
7-star: Black Rose Dragon
8-star: Stardust Dragon
9-star: Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier Mist Wurm

Every Extra Deck should have those. They're too versatile to afford not to run.

[nsmbwii]

They really did kill Tengu Plant decks this format. What more to make Xyzs even stronger then kill one of the most popular Synchro decks?

Even so, I still prefer to use my Crashbug deck simply for the fact it is not overpowered this format. (Heck, once it gets Tour Guides in the Battle Pack, it still wouldn't be too strong. Six Samurais and Inzektors still would eat it up. Thank god for Dark Armed Dragon.)

[mario72486]

Well, the first major tournament of the format, YCS Long Beach, is this weekend. It's also the first opportunity for Konami to see what a huge mistake they made with their latest 'modifications' to the list.

You thought the spread of the Big Three decks (Dino-Rabbit, Wind-Up and Inzektors) compared to other types at Atlanta was bad? I predict that at least 80% of the top 32 decks will consist of the Big Three, and I further predict that one of them will win the tournament itself. Yes, T.G.s got the last laugh at Atlanta before being barred from competitive play (losing many of their key special-summoning tricks), but I seriously doubt lightning will strike twice.

On the bright side, I've had a nice string of luck with pulls from the current set, and currently I've found plenty of inspiration to build a few Magic decks, both for Standard and Modern. I doubt I'll be playing Yu-Gi-Oh competitively until some sense of order and balance has been resolved.

In other words, I'm taking quite the hiatus...

[Ayeun]

Quick question... Why are these cards banned? If they were released officially, then why are they not allowed? I am confused.

[Ash0011]

my guess is that most of them that are banned in the original have become overpowered and some are made super rare and just made to brag about

[nsmbwii]

Well they originally were Unlimited, or in Trishy's case, eventually limited. I guess Konami found certain cards to be a little too strong, so they nerfed how many you can have in decks.

Glow Up Bulb was a probably a contender for limiting because it could allow an easy summon for Formula Synchron, or easily pull out Ally of Justice Catastor. As it's effect is limited once per duel, I guess if Konami wanted to hurt it in someway, limiting or semi-limiting would not make much of an impact, mainly as far as I know most people ran only 1 in the deck. In this case, Forbidding was their way of solving the problem.

Spore... well somewhat the same case as Glow Up Bulb, it's effect is once per duel, plus it was very versatile for Synchros.


Trishula... eh.... he just banishes a card in field, random in hand, and 1 in grave. Since he was actualy pretty prevalent, I guess Konami just wanted him out of the way so decks like Infernitys could use something else.


Also, screw Dino Rabbit and Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaighty loops, I got Y2K.

[mario72486]

It goes much deeper than that. Unfortunately, Konami sees Yu-Gi-Oh as a money-maker, not a game.

Synchros no longer make them money, while Exceeds have only started picking up steam. The best way to increase their earnings is to eliminate the best Synchro material there was to offer (Bulb, Spore, Trish and Tengu) while promoting the best Exceeds have to offer.

Unfortunately, that means absolutely NOTHING regarding the Big Three was touched by the recent list. Prices on Tour Guide/Bus, Rabbit, Inzektors and Wind-Ups have exploded as a result of people's desires to play competitively. As I said in an previous post, either you play one of the Big Three or a deck full of counters at major tournaments, or there is no hope in making it ANYWHERE.

I realize that the people within Konami need to earn a living, but at the expense of alienating the playerbase? Simply inexcusable.

[nsmbwii]

True, as a fairly dedicated fan to the game, It would be nice to that Konami actually would see to a balanced format. Betcha more then anything that the next new kind of monster that comes out they push Xyzs out of the way.

That's one reason I do tend to prefer to only use the odd Xyzs like Number 34: Terror Byte or Wind-Up Zenmaister. (Poor guy got pushed over by Number 39: Utopia. I still prefer to use him in my decks.)

[Dark Sage]

Mario, Tour Guide doesn't even exist in Japan yet. Over there, the Wind-Up Loop isn't as easy to pull off.

Did anyone stop to wonder that this may be the real reason why Tour Guide and Wind-Up Carrier weren't touched?

And by the way, many people think that a company exhibits greed when what it really is exhibiting is Capitalism. You know, an American concept, something that defines a democracy?

[Dark Sage]

No, I do not know what the September List is going to be yet.

However, I am here to tell people that if past September Lists are any indication, it will likely be much better than the March List that everyone hated. You see, historically, March formats tend to be bad, and the September formats tend to be a lot better.

I remember the March 2010 format not-too-fondly...

With Frog FTK
And Rescue Cat
And x3 Infernity Launcher
And the Dweloren Loop
And many other very bad things

It was all fixed six months later.

So... To anyone who plays the game... Don't spend your savings on three Inzektor Hornets or Rescue Rabbits just yet...

[Dark Sage]

People, I don't want anyone to get excited, because this list is not 100% confirmed. But it is the most reliable one so far. This is sort of the one that we got the same way we got the March List.

And if it's real, I think everyone can live with it:


New Forbidden

Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Future Fusion

New Limited

Inzektor Hornet
Inzector Dragonfly
Ultimate Offering
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Tsukuyomi
Chaos Sorcerer
Evigishki Gustkraken
Spore
Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity

New Semi-Limited

Tour Guide from the Underworld
Mirror Force
Reasoning
A Hero Lives
Hieratic Seal of Convocation
Pot of Duality
E-Emergency Call
Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow
Rescue Rabbit
Debris Dragon
The Agent of Mystery - Earth


New Unlimited

Necro Gardna
Marshmallon
Emergency Teleport
Destiny Draw
Swords of Revealing Light
Level Limit Area B
Magic Cylinder


Like I said, I can live with this List if it is indeed real. It doesn't kill all the problem decks entirely, but it does trim their claws a great deal.

[Dark Sage]

The above List is now official, at least for the OCG.

Any comments?

[Mystic_clown]

Praise the people who limited Hornet. I hate that cheap thing.

[Dark Sage]

Praise the people who limited Hornet. I hate that cheap thing.

Oh, believe me, MC, you are not alone.

I even ran into a player who used Inzektors who admitted it was too powerful.

[mattbcl]

I'm actually quite glad to see Brionac getting bumped off. I've mixed feelings about Future Fusion since it nerfs my Elemental Heroes a little bit - but not too much. And they should have had REDMD limited to one a long time ago. I've got a friend who plays Hieratics and abuses the hell out of that card.

And now Agent of Mystery - Earth is coming onto semi-limited? Oh yes. My Fairy deck shall be reconstructed and my compatriots will fear my Master Hyperions.

[mr_pikachu]

I claim absolutely no credit for the content of this post.

...Except for that last sentence.

And that one.

And that one.

And that one.

And....

And, since the banlist currently listed in this forum is heinously outdated, here is the current list. (OCG name on the left, TCG name on the right)

Banned (0 copies allowed in your Deck/Fusion Deck/Extra Deck and Side Deck combined)

Black Forest Witch // Witch of the Black Forest
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Messenger of the End // Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Chaos Soldier - Messenger of Beginning // Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Chaos Sorceror // Chaos Sorcerer
Cyber Pod // Cyber Jar
Devil Franken // Cyber-Stein
Executioner Makyura // Makyura the Destructor
Fiber Pod // Fiber Jar
Killer Snake // Sinister Serpent
Magic Warrior Breaker // Breaker the Magical Warrior
Magical Scientist // Magical Scientist
Saint Magician // Magician of Faith
Thousand Eye Sacrifice // Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Tribe Infecting Virus // Tribe-Infecting Virus
Tsukuyomi // Tsukuyomi
Victory Dragon // Victory Dragon
Yatagarasu // Yata-Garasu
Angel's Gift // Graceful Charity
Black Hole // Dark Hole
Change of Heart // Change of Heart
Confiscate // Confiscation
Dagger of Butterflies - Eruma // Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Distressful Choice // Painful Choice
Dimensional Fusion // Dimension Fusion <- (TCG only)
Harpy's Feather Sweep // Harpie's Feather Duster
Metamorphosis // Metamorphosis
Mirage of Nightmares // Mirage of Nightmare
Mischevious Demon Twins // Delinquent Duo
Pharaoh's Shrine // Cathedral of Nobles *
Pot of Greed // Pot of Greed
Steadfast Guard // The Forceful Sentry
Theft // Snatch Steal
Thunder Bolt // Raigeki
Will // Last Will
Cry of the Living Dead // Call of the Haunted
Destruction Ring // Ring of Destruction
Imperial Decree // Imperial Order
Last Battle! // Last Turn
Reversal of World // Exchange of the Spirit
Sixth Sense // Sixth Sense *
Time Seal // Time Seal

Limited (1 copy allowed in your Deck/Fusion Deck/Extra Deck and Side Deck combined)

Black Magician of Chaos // Dark Magician of Chaos
Card Gunner // Card Trooper
Critter // Sangan
Dandelion // Dandelion *
Destiny Hero Discguy // Destiny Hero - Disk Commander
Dol Dora // Twin-Headed Behemoth
Elemental Hero Airman // Elemental Hero Stratos
Emissary of Hades - Gorz // Messenger of Ha Des - Gors *
Female Warrior of Another Dimension // D.D. Warrior Lady
Forest Guard Green Baboon // Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest
Metamol Pod // Morphing Jar
Marshmellon // Marshmallon
Neospacian Ground Mole // Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Night Assassin // Night Assailant
Sealed Exodia // Exodia the Forbidden One
Sealed Left Hand // Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Sealed Left Leg // Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Sealed Right Hand // Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Sealed Right Leg // Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Snipestalker // Snipe Hunter
Soul Reaping Spirit // Spirit Reaper
Wind Monarch - Raizar // Raiza the Storm Monarch
Yomigaeru // Treeborn Frog
Advanced Ritual Technique // Advanced Ritual Art
Brain Control // Brain Control
Chain Strike // Chain Strike
Cyclone // Mystical Space Typhoon
Dimensional Fusion // Dimension Fusion <- (OCG only)
Early Burial // Premature Burial
Earth Crusher // Smashing Ground
Emissary of Obliteration // Nobleman of Crossout
Fissure // Fissure
Future Fusion // Future Fusion
Golden Chest of Sealing // Gold Sarcophagus
Hand Obliteration // Card Destruction
Hurricane // Giant Trunade
Level B Restriction Area // Level Limit - Area B
Limiter Removal // Limiter Removal
Megamorph // Megamorph
Overload Fusion // Overload Fusion
Power of Teamwork // United We Stand
Raise Dead // Monster Reborn
Scapegoat // Scapegoat
Sealing Swords of Light // Swords of Revealing Light
Tempest // Heavy Storm
Ceasefire Agreement // Ceasefire
Compensation of Blood // Ultimate Offering
Deck Destruction Virus of Death // Crush Card Virus
Gravity Bind // Gravity Bind
Holy Barrier - Mirror Force // Mirror Force
Magic Cylinder // Magic Cylinder
Mind Crush // Mind Crush
Ojama Trio // Ojama Trio
Prophecy of Reincarnation // The Transmigration Prophecy
Return from Another Dimension // Return from the Different Dimension <- (TCG only)
Sealing Wall of Light // Wall of Revealing Light
Tidal Wave // Torrential Tribute
Trap Dustshoot // Trap Dustshoot

Semi-Limited (2 copies allowed in your Deck/Fusion Deck/Extra Deck and Side Deck combined)

Cyber Dragon // Cyber Dragon
Destiny Hero Diabolicguy // Destiny Hero - Malicious
Light and Darkness Dragon // Light and Darkness Dragon
Manticore of Darkness // Manticore of Darkness
Mask of Darkness // Mask of Darkness
Necroface // Necroface
Allure of Darkness // Allure of Darkness **
Book of Moon // Book of Moon
Calling Reinforcements // Reinforcement of the Army
Foolish Burial // Foolish Burial
Magic Shard Excavation // Magical Stone Excavation
Power of Magicians // Mage Power
Royal Decree // Royal Decree

* Has not yet been released in the TCG
** Has not yet been released in the OCG

[Dark Sage]

I thought I'd update this list further. Here is the current list:

FORBIDDEN

BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING
CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END
CYBER JAR
CYBER-STEIN
DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS
DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER
FIBER JAR
MAGICAL SCIENTIST
MAGICIAN OF FAITH
MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR
SINISTER SERPENT
TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS
TSUKUYOMI
VICTORY DRAGON
WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST
YATA-GARASU
THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT
BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA
CHANGE OF HEART
CONFISCATION
DARK HOLE
DELINQUENT DUO
DIMENSION FUSION
GRACEFUL CHARITY
HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER
LAST WILL
METAMORPHOSIS
MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE
PAINFUL CHOICE
POT OF GREED
PREMATURE BURIAL
RAIGEKI
SNATCH STEAL
THE FORCEFUL SENTRY
CALL OF THE HAUNTED
EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT
IMPERIAL ORDER
LAST TURN
RING OF DESTRUCTION
TIME SEAL



LIMITED

BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR
CARD TROOPER
CHAOS SORCERER
CYBER DRAGON
D. D. WARRIOR LADY
DANDYLION
DARK ARMED DRAGON
ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS
EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE
GLADIATOR BEAST BESTIARI NEW
GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS
MARSHMALLON
MEZUKI
MORPHING JAR
NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE
NIGHT ASSAILANT
PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE
SANGAN
SNIPE HUNTER
SPIRIT REAPER
TREEBORN FROG
GOYO GUARDIAN
LEFT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
LEFT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
RIGHT ARM OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE
ADVANCED RITUAL ART
BRAIN CONTROL
CARD DESTRUCTION
CARD OF SAFE RETURN
EMERGENCY TELEPORT NEW
FISSURE
FUTURE FUSION
GIANT TRUNADE
HEAVY STORM
LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B
LIMITER REMOVAL
MEGAMORPH
MONSTER GATE
MONSTER REBORN
MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON
OVERLOAD FUSION
REASONING
REINFORCEMENT OF THE ARMY NEW
SCAPEGOAT
SMASHING GROUND
SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT
UNITED WE STAND
CEASEFIRE
CRUSH CARD VIRUS
GRAVITY BIND
MAGIC CYLINDER
MIRROR FORCE
OJAMA TRIO
RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION
THE TRANSMIGRATION PROPHECY
TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE
TRAP DUSTSHOOT
WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT



SEMI-LIMITED

DESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS NEW
GOBLIN ZOMBIE NEW
GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST
JUDGMENT DRAGON
MASK OF DARKNESS
NECROFACE
RAIZA THE STORM MONARCH
RESCUE CAT
SUMMON PRIEST
ALLURE OF DARKNESS
CHAIN STRIKE
DESTINY DRAW NEW
FOOLISH BURIAL
GOLD SARCOPHAGUS
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION
MIND CRUSH
ULTIMATE OFFERING



NO LONGER LIMITED

MANTICORE OF DARKNESS Now Semi-Limited
PHANTOM OF CHAOS Now Semi-Limited
TWIN-HEADED BEHEMOTH Now Limited
BOOK OF MOON Now Semi-Limited
NOBLEMAN OF CROSSOUT Now Semi-Limited

[Dark Sage]

Today, a scan of the September 2009 list was released.

Edit: No more possibilty that this list is a fake. This is real.

I'll only list the changes:

New Forbidden

Card of Safe Return
Dark Strike Fighter
Monster Reborn
Crush Card Virus


New Limited

Demise, King of Armageddon
Mental Master
Rescue Cat
Mind Control
Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
One for One
Solemn Judgement
Summon Priest
Cold Wave
Black Rose Dragon
Call of the Haunted


New Semi-Limited

Bottomless Trap Hole
Dewloren, Tiger of the Ice Boundary
Lone-Fire Blossom
Chaos Sorcerer
Mezuki


No longer Limited

Raiza
Destiny Draw
Fissure
Breaker
Green Baboon
DD Warrior Lady